don't use the pop-ups, just use a thermometer. >> 165, the magic number. consumers want to know if pink turkey meat is safe. when we see it pink, and we often do -- >> usda again helped us with this answer. it says that the color of cooked poultry, like turkey, is not always a sure sign that it's safe. the only way to know your turkey is safe, again, is to use a food thermometer. make sure it's reached the safe 165-degree fahrenheit. the meat of smoked turkey is always pink. so you should never be alarmed in this case. we put lots more thanksgiving turkey tips online. just go to nbcwashington.com, and search turkey tips. they're all there. if you have a question you would like us to consider at "ask liz," go to nbcwashington.com, and connect with me on twitter, and on facebook by searching the consumer watch. at 5:00 tonight, how long does it take to defrost that frozen turkey? once defrosted, how long do you cook it? we have all the answers at 5:00. >> if i'm a guest, there's no leftovers. >> no worries. >> i'm a vacuum. liz, we'll see you at 5:00. good a